Flat Earth; Truth or Science Fiction?

Gen 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament (or expanse) in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
Gen 1:7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
Gen 1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And there was evening and there was morning, a second day.
Gen 1:9 And God said, Let the waters under the heavens be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
Gen 1:10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.

H7549 ra^qi^ya From H7554; properly an expanse, that is, the firmament or (apparently) visible arch of the sky: – firmament.

H7554 ra^qa A primitive root; to pound the earth (as a sign of passion); by analogy to expand (by hammering); by implication to overlay (with thin sheets of metal): – beat, make broad, spread abroad (forth, over, out, into plates), stamp, stretch.

H7549 ra^qi^ya BDB Definition:
1) extended surface (solid), expanse, firmament
1a) expanse (flat as base, support)
1b) firmament (of vault of heaven supporting waters above)
1b1) considered by Hebrews as solid and supporting ‘waters’ above

From the Vulgate firmamentum, which is used as the translation of the Hebrew rakiya. This word means simply “expansion.” It denotes the space or expanse like an arch appearing immediately above us. They who rendered rakiya by firmamentum regarded it as a solid body. The language of Scripture is not scientific but popular, and hence we read of the sun rising and setting, and also here the use of this particular word. It is plain that it was used to denote solidity as well as expansion. It formed a division between the waters above and the waters below (Gen_1:7). The rakiya supported the upper reservoir (Psa_148:4). It was the support also of the heavenly bodies (Gen_1:14), and is spoken of as having “windows” and “doors” (Gen_7:11; Isa_24:18; Mal_3:10) through which the rain and snow might descend.

Psa 148:4 Praise him, ye heavens of heavens, And ye waters that are above the heavens.

David wrote this after the great flood of Genesis. Thus, the flood didn’t remove or disintegrate the ‘firmanent’ or vault which God placed above the Earth.

Job 37:18 Canst thou with him spread out the sky, Which is strong as a molten mirror? (or molten looking glass). Isa 40:2

Pro 8:27 When he established the heavens, I was there: When he set a circle upon the face of the deep,

H2329 chu^g
BDB Definition:
1) circle, circuit, compass
2) (BDB) vault (of the heavens)

Amo 9:6 it is he that buildeth his chambers in the heavens, and hath founded his vault upon the earth; he that calleth for the waters of the sea, and poureth them out upon the face of the earth; Jehovah is his name.

H92 ‘a gu^dda^h
BDB Definition:
1d) vault (of the heavens), firmament (binding earth to the heavens)

Eze 1:26 And above the firmament that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone; and upon the likeness of the throne was a likeness as the appearance of a man upon it above.

Isa 40:22 It is he that sitteth above the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in;

Tents are always stretched out over a flat surface!

Isa 66:1 Thus saith Jehovah, Heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: what manner of house will ye build unto me? and what place shall be my rest?

The shape of a ‘footstool’ is just like the domed-shaped firmanent God placed over the Earth which has ‘pillars’ (as a footstool has legs).

Job 26:7 He stretcheth out the north over empty space, And hangeth the earth upon nothing.

In Job 9:6, Job acknowledges that the Earth has ‘pillars.’

Job predates Genesis. Job 38:4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? Declare, if thou hast understanding. Job 38:6 Whereupon were the foundations thereof fastened? Or who laid the corner-stone thereof,
Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, And all the sons of God shouted for joy?

1Sa 2:8 For the pillars of the earth are Jehovah’s, And he hath set the world upon them. (pillars – ma^tsu^q; column or hill top)

The earth sits upon ‘pillars?’ The dry land appeared out of the face of the ‘deep’ (oceans).

Job 26:10 He has inscribed a circle on the face of the waters at the boundary between light and darkness. [ESV]

inscribe (compassed KJV) – chu^g
BDB Definition:
1) to encircle, encompass, describe a circle, draw round, make a circle
1a) (Qal) to encircle, encompass

Isaiah knew the difference between a ‘ball’ and a ‘circle’ – *(problem with this comment is the definition for ‘ball’ ends up including ‘circle,’ as seen below! -D.S.)

Isa 22:18 He will surely violently turn and toss thee like a ball… (H1754 du^r; a circle, ball or pile:- ball, turn, round about)

What was placed INSIDE the ‘Tent?’

Genesis 1:14-28; ‘lights’ – sun, moon, and stars. Then, fish, birds, and other living creatures; whales, creeping things, cattle, etc. Then, God created Man.

The only way you can see the stars and other luminary bodies (which never change their distance from one another) in the same positions, is if the heavens is a sphere that moves around a stationary earth below it. If the earth was a spinning ball, the stars and other luminary bodies in the heavens, would be constantly changing their positions and distances as we viewed them from earth. Since this does not occur, then earth must not be moving, but the heavens over it are.

The phrase ‘face of the earth’ is used 29 times in the Old Testament. So, where then is the face of the earth? The face is usually the front of a thing or person, and there’s a backside. A round object has no front or back.

Jos 10:13 And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, Until the nation had avenged themselves of their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? And the sun stayed in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.

If the sun and moon stopped moving, then the earth must be stationary, because if the earth spins around, then the sun and moon would still appear to be moving, even if they had stopped moving. Thus, the earth could not be spinning around, it is stationary, ‘unmovable’ as the Bible has said.

The Earth has ‘end’s and ‘corners’ and is not a ‘sphere.’

1 Sam 2:8
Ps 74:14
Job 28:24
Isa 11:12
Dan 4:10, 11
Mt 4:8
Rev 7:1
Rev 20:8

“Compass” def. – Hebrew word for ‘circle of earth’; encompass, encircle, draw round, make a circle.

Our Earth is an Island –
Ps 24:2
2 Pet 3:5
Ps 104:6
Gen 1:1, 2

The Earth is ‘stretched out’ – Ps 136:6, JOb 26:7, Isa 44:24, Isa 42:5

Website https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi2NbIf_7p4

**The comments, Scriptures, and viewpoint aired in this video are not mine, but those of the producers of – The Global Lie /Flat Earth Revelation. There’s more information given in the video, what’s here are just the notes I took down while listening to it. In the video the speakers talk about what people believed hundreds of years ago, which was that our earth was ‘flat’ not round, and that an astronomer named Copernicus invented the notion of a ’round earth.’ I’ve posted this for your information and further study. As of yet I would need to study this subject further to make a decision one way or the other, and there seems to be compelling arguments and evidence on both sides. However, since I’m a believer in the Bible, I can’t shrug off what’s written in it, yet one has to be very careful how he interprets what’s written therein.**

Debra R. Stout, March 10, 2016

Other Fascinating Resources –
http://blog.modernmechanix.com/5000-for-proving-the-earth-is-a-globe/                                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth



What is the ‘baptism of fire’ which John wrote about in Mt 3:11 and Luke 3:16, and what does it mean?

Is it a distinct baptism from water baptism and the baptism in the Holy Spirit? Is it synonymous with the baptism in the Holy Spirit, or is it something else?

The answer is found in the pages of the holy Bible –

Mat 3:11 I indeed baptize you in water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you in the Holy Spirit and in fire:
Mat 3:12 whose fan is in his hand, and he will thoroughly cleanse his threshing-floor; and he will gather his wheat into the garner, but the chaff he will burn up with unquenchable fire.

May I suggest that the ‘fire’ of Yahweh serves two purposes: the cleansing or purging of his people, and the destruction of the wicked, unbelieving, and hypocrites. As you can see in Mt 3:12, Jesus has a ‘fan’ (ptuon; a winnowing shovel) which he uses to ‘cleanse’ or purge his ‘threshing-floor’ (the church). The righteous are winnowed by the Lord so that their uncleanness is purged from their souls. Then he gathers his ‘wheat’ (the righteous) into his ‘barn’ (his kingdom), but the ‘chaff’ (fake believers or tares) will be burned up at the end of the world. Thus, God’s ‘fire’ is for both purging and judgment, depending upon whom it falls. It will judge and burn up the wicked and unbelieving, but only purges or cleanses the righteous of their ‘chaff’ (uncleanness). God is a consuming FIRE (Heb 12:29) who purges uncleanness from righteous souls and burns up unrepentant wicked souls with unquenchable (unending) fiery torment – 2 Thess 1:8. Thus, the baptism of fire is a purifying fire which cleanses the believer’s soul and destroys the wicked. 

Mat 13:25 but while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares also among the wheat, and went away.
Mat 13:26 But when the blade sprang up and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.
Mat 13:27 And the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst thou not sow good seed in thy field? whence then hath it tares?
Mat 13:28 And he said unto them, An enemy hath done this. And the servants say unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?
Mat 13:29 But he saith, Nay; lest haply while ye gather up the tares, ye root up the wheat with them.
Mat 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of the harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather up first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them; but gather the wheat into my barn.

Mat 13:37 And he answered and said, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
Mat 13:38 and the field is the world; and the good seed, these are the sons of the kingdom; and the tares are the sons of the evil one;
Mat 13:39 and the enemy that sowed them is the devil: and the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are angels.
Mat 13:40 As therefore the tares are gathered up and burned with fire; so shall it be in the end of the world.
Mat 13:41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that cause stumbling, and them that do iniquity,
Mat 13:42 and shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be the weeping and the gnashing of teeth.
Mat 13:43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He that hath ears, let him hear.
Mat 13:49 So shall it be in the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the righteous,
Mat 13:50 and shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be the weeping and the gnashing of teeth.

God promises to perfect us, “Christ in you, the hope of glory” – Col 1:27 to whom God was pleased to make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles, which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:
Col 1:28 whom we proclaim, admonishing every man and teaching every man in all wisdom, that we may present every man perfect (G5046 teleios; complete, mature, wanting nothing) in Christ.

1Pe 5:10 But the God of all grace, who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after that ye have suffered a while, make you perfect, establish, strengthen, settle you.

How does he purify and perfect us? One way is by sending us fiery trials and tribulations which burn away our imperfections, faults, bad habits, etc. A more pleasant way we can be cleansed is by immersing ourselves in the Word, prayer, and worship. 

Faithful is he who calls you! – 1Th 5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; (purify, consecrate, perfect) and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. 1Th 5:24 Faithful is he that calleth you, who also will do it.

“Great is Thy faithfulness, great is Thy faithfulness, morning by morning new mercies I see… all I have needed Thy hand has provided, Great is Thy faithfulness, Lord unto me!” (Refrain only)

The song, “Great Is Thy Faithfulness” was written by Thomas Chisholm (1866–1960) with music composed by William M. Runyan (1870–1957) in Baldwin, Kansas, U.S. The phrase “great is thy faithfulness” comes from the Old Testament Book of Lamentations 3:23. [Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia]

So let us seek the baptism with fire! May the ‘fire’ of God purify our souls, that we may be ‘perfect, mature, complete sons of God, ready to go in with him to the marriage supper of the Lamb when he returns!

Debra R. Stout, July 4, 2015